An open letter

[soothsayer]

Perhaps the "former" has different ways of dealing with conflict?  Some people aren't as interested in making public scenes by freaking out the moment someone touches them and will instead choose to deal with it on a more private level.  This is true especially when the behavior had been known to be acceptable in the recent past.

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It was never acceptable in my eyes and the 'former' was told this up front. Perhaps if the former had the ability to be more considerate of other peoples feelings on this issue when they were told to begin with things would have been resolved better. Some people just can't see past their own nose. :erm

[Homicidalheathen]

I don't hang in the DGN corner much these days so I have no idea what your talking about.

But......CC is full of raver types on e and they think anything goes including their hands...wherever.

You could ask CC to post a bulletin by the door but I doubt they will do it.

I think you should try Mephistos really. No one ever grabbed me there.

I get gropped in CC all the time.

I even get the grope and run thing......it is like rape.....so if you don't like it,. don't go. It is not just the DGN table I assure you.

[Blackmail]

Now, I must preface by saying that I certainly don't disbelieve you or FC, and that my title as Captain Oblivious is well-deserved.  However, I can say, with one exception, that I've not really noticed this sort of thing in the DGn corner, the little that I've been there in the past several weeks.  I can say with unequivocal certainty that I have never had my own bum--or other body parts, for that matter--grabbed.  I'd be interested to see how many others this has happened to, as a statistical endeavor.  Hm, I must have some kind of aura...seriously. 

And I don't mean the BO.

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All you need to do is read DGN really, how many threads are there about boyfriend stealing and lost friendships? Most of these threads come from problems in the DGN corner and many of them are sexual situations.

But here's a quick rundown of some things I know of resulting from the DGN corner:

- One person had his girlfriend leave him because he would make out with other chicks in front of her. I asked him if it was true and he said....well, maybe, but I was drunk.

- Another DGN guy now is refferred to as the resident DGN slut.

- The bi-sexual girl touching I mentioned above.

- The two incidents Fierce has brought up on DGN.

- Whatever Sooth is talking about.

- I know of two guys on DGN who have girlfriends and the girls make out with other DGN girls in the corner. Both guys don't like it but the girls do it anyway.

- One DGN male member had his Pee-Pee grabbed by a female DGN member the very first time they met, and it was definately uninvited from what the male member tells me.

- One formerly underage DGN female let a older male DGN member "finger" her under the table because he bought her drinks.

- Another underage DGN member let the same male play with her breasts because he bought her drinks.

- One DGN member (the first one mentioned in my list) tried to change his ways to keep his girlfriend but the DGN girls would not leave him alone, they kept groping him. It got so bad he put a post on DGN asking for the girls to not do it anymore. One DGN girl put her hands on his penis at the club (again, uninvited) and it is totally unrelated to the incident I mentioned above.

This is only a partial list, I could go on. I havn't even mentioned two of the more prevalent DGN stories of the past few months.

I really do wonder if the DGN collective will ever look at all the infidelity, the borderline sexual assaults, the backstabbing and friendships lost and admit there is a problem with this incestious group of friends. I enjoy the circus myself, I have met some cool people in the DGN corner. Hell I wasn't even that upset when my own name got thrown into some rumors (I thought it was sort of funny that someone would say I did XX and OO when I barely even go to CC).

Oh and Homicidal Heathen, I know of more than one person claiming YOU groped them. I saw one incident with my own eyes.

[ZhukovCodeslinger]

hmmmm I used to get groped a lot before when "I dressed like a goth"... but that has alll changed. I have found that by simply wearing my work clothes rather than all of my goth crap (most of which i finally threw out after 10 years of wearing it less and less i might add) has gained me two things:

1. a larger paycheck

2. less groping at cityclub... actually no groping at all except for that done by my sweetie.

i guess i am living proof that if you dreess like you are asking for it... you get it. SO tell John to stop looking so darn hot

ok.. I kid... I kid

(but all of that was true)

I am really glad I dont get groped any more... .though there are some people who I would be less bothered about being groped by than others.

[Homicidalheathen]

Too High school for me. Bye bye dgn

[Homicidalheathen]

And might I say you got your wish.....all of the single or available females seem to leave. At least the attractive ones who put out. Ha. Bet the single males just love this.

[LuluVox]

Hey, you can't leave in someone else's I'm leaving thread!

Oh wait, this isn't the topic I thought it was. Nevermind!

[Blackmail]

Too High school for me.  Bye bye dgn

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If this is high school, I want to be the Anthony Michael Hall of DGN.

[Shade Everdark]

All you need to do is read DGN really, how many threads are there about boyfriend stealing and lost friendships?  Most of these threads come from problems in the DGN corner and many of them are sexual situations. 

But here's a quick rundown of some things I know of resulting from the DGN corner:

- One person had his girlfriend leave him because he would make out with other chicks in front of her.  I asked him if it was true and he said....well, maybe, but I was drunk.

- Another DGN guy now is refferred to as the resident DGN slut.

- The bi-sexual girl touching I mentioned above.

- The two incidents Fierce has brought up on DGN.

- Whatever Sooth is talking about.

- I know of two guys on DGN who have girlfriends and the girls make out with other DGN girls in the corner.  Both guys don't like it but the girls do it anyway.

- One DGN male member had his Pee-Pee grabbed by a female DGN member the very first time they met, and it was definately uninvited from what the male member tells me.

- One formerly underage DGN female let a older male DGN member "finger" her under the table because he bought her drinks.

- Another underage DGN member let the same male play with her breasts because he bought her drinks. 

- One DGN member (the first one mentioned in my list) tried to change his ways to keep his girlfriend but the DGN girls would not leave him alone, they kept groping him.  It got so bad he put a post on DGN asking for the girls to not do it anymore.  One DGN girl put her hands on his penis at the club (again, uninvited) and it is totally unrelated to the incident I mentioned above.

This is only a partial list, I could go on.  I havn't even mentioned two of the more prevalent DGN stories of the past few months. 

I really do wonder if the DGN collective will ever look at all the infidelity, the borderline sexual assaults, the backstabbing and friendships lost and admit there is a problem with this incestious group of friends.    I enjoy the circus myself, I have met some cool people in the DGN corner.  Hell I wasn't even that upset when my own name got thrown into some rumors (I thought it was sort of funny that someone would say I did XX and OO when I barely even go to CC).

Oh and Homicidal Heathen,  I know of more than one person claiming YOU groped them.    I saw one incident with my own eyes.

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Yeah, see, I don't notice any of this.

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Captain Oblivious, that's me.

[Jinx]

Here is my question this "open letter"is obviously directed towrds 1 person. You are speaking about someone who said or did something. Why not send your letter to the person involved if you don't have their email you can get it from their contact info. WHY are you posting this in a public forum. All you are doing is starting Drama that does not need to be started. This is obviously an issue between this person your husband and you. Why are you involving us in this. Private things should be kept private. You are an adult you are married why are you acting this way.

Just my 2 cents.

[ZhukovCodeslinger]

Just my 2 cents. I hate the fact this scene tends to have more childish drama than any other social group I have come across.

Hrrumph! You seem to have forgotten about 2nd grade on the playground... I do not appreciate being placed below second grade by association. I would settle for below the 5th grade.... but no lower :doh

[Marblez]

Here is my question this "open letter"is obviously directed towrds 1 person. You are speaking about someone who said or did something. Why not send your letter to the person involved if you don't have their email you can get it  from their contact info. WHY are you posting this in a public forum.  All you are doing is starting Drama that does not need to be started. This is obviously an issue between this person your husband and you. Why are you involving us in this.  Private things should be kept private.  You are an adult you are married why are you acting this way.

Just my 2 cents. I hate the fact this scene tends to have more childish drama than any other social group I have come across.

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The number of incidents and the number of people guilty of this kind of crap is increasing. Don't PM/IM/e-mail and ask us, "who are you talking about specifically". We're not getting involved in any of that kind of BS. Because as much as certain persons have chosen to disrespect me and Jon, we won't stoop to that level.

[LuluVox]

The level of communication?

[Fierce Critter]

Here is my question this "open letter"is obviously directed towrds 1 person. You are speaking about someone who said or did something. Why not send your letter to the person involved if you don't have their email you can get it  from their contact info. WHY are you posting this in a public forum.  All you are doing is starting Drama that does not need to be started. This is obviously an issue between this person your husband and you. Why are you involving us in this.  Private things should be kept private.  You are an adult you are married why are you acting this way.

Just my 2 cents.

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1) It's not directed at one person.

2) This is just that - a public forum. See my first paragraph. I felt a need to vent regarding this, and I did. It's your prerogative to read or not read, comment or dont' comment - as it is everyone else's.

3) I am an adult, and would like to see certain people grow up, learn some respect, and stop CREATING drama.

4) I couldn't find Phee's Deflame Venting Thread. :grin

5) You're entitled.

[Fierce Critter]

hmmmm  I used to get groped a lot before when "I dressed like a goth"... but that has alll changed.  I have found that by simply wearing my work clothes rather than all of my goth crap (most of which i finally threw out after 10 years of wearing it less and less i might add) has gained me two things:

1. a larger paycheck

2. less groping at cityclub... actually no groping at all except for that done by my sweetie.

i guess i am living proof that if you dreess like you are asking for it... you get it.  SO tell John to stop looking so darn hot 

ok.. I kid... I kid

(but all of that was true)

I am really glad I dont get groped any more... .though there are some people who I would be less bothered about being groped by than others.

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LOL. Taken in the spirit offered.

But I repeat: I'm not talking strictly about physical incidents here - though that has been, and continues to be, an unpleasant problem.

This past weekend was OVERBOARD as far as people whispering in my or Jon's ear when the other was off to the restroom, and other such BS. It's being taken to a whole new level, and something's gotta give.

Like I said, it's happening with more and more frequency. I'm tired of people thinking they can do this sort of thing without consequences.

[soothsayer]

I'm tired of people thinking they can do this sort of thing without consequences.

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I know how you feel FC. :erm

[DarkChylde]

Too High school for me.  Bye bye dgn

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Im with blackmail on this. You dont have much room to be talking either, I remember last summer when I was with my last ex you got pretty drunk and tried grabbing on me at mephistos even knowing I was with somone at the time. Im just glad that I can control my alcohol tolerence and drunk behavior.

[LuluVox]

OK, now we're just mud-slinging.

[Fierce Critter]

Time, I think, to lock this thread.

Mods, if you agree, and don't mind...