Obama's Enron

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Is Goldman Obama's Enron? No, it's worse

Campaign contributions from Goldman Sachs employees to President Obama are nearly seven times as much as President Bush received from Enron workers, according to numbers on OpenSecrets.org.

President Bush's connections to Enron were well-hyped during the company's accounting debacle that rippled through the economy. Time magazine even had an article called, "Bush's Enron Problem." The Associated Press ran with the headline, "Bush-backing Enron makes big money off crisis." David Callaway wrote that Enron for Bush was worse than Whitewater for Clinton.

But the mere $151,722.42 (inflation adjusted) in contributions from Enron-affiliated executives, employees, and PACs to Bush hardly add up to Obama's $1,007,370.85 (inflation adjusted) from Goldman-affiliated executives and employees. That's also not taking into account how much Goldman contributed to Obama cabinet member Hillary Clinton ($415,595.63 inflation adjusted), which was itself almost three times as much as Bush received as well.

It would be fair to say that the total amount the Obama administration has received from those affiliated with Goldman Sachs is ten times that of what Bush received from Enron.

Goldman is being sued for civil fraud by the Securities and Exchange Commission for deliberately putting unwitting clients on the wrong side of a mortgage security trade that had been designed to fail.

[Msterbeau]

There's nothing illegal about that and that's the whole problem. Politicians on both sides, at all levels are being bought out by special interests and corporations. If we want this country back, for government to be for the people, then we need to have corporations decoupled from politics.

Found this interesting tidbit. No clue how much of it is provable:

http://www.bignews.biz/?id=788260&pg=1&keys=financial-Rothschilds-Goldman-presidency

[the eternal]

Do you know how news outlets have to give a full disclosure when they have an interest in something.

It's important to note that EVERY SINGLE reference Gaf has EVER used is froma conservative source.

Case in point---This article came from the Washington Examiner

The Washington Examiner is a free daily newspaper with a conservative viewpoint published in Springfield, Virginia, and distributed around Washington, D.C. and its suburbs. It is owned by Denver businessman Philip Anschutz who is one of the world's richest men.

The newspaper was formerly distributed only in the suburbs of Washington, under the titles of Montgomery Journal, Prince George's Journal, and Northern Virginia Journal. Anschutz purchased their parent company, Journal Newspapers Inc., in October 2004. On February 1, 2005, the paper's name changed to the Washington Examiner, and it adopted a logo and format similar to that of another newspaper owned by Anschutz, the San Francisco Examiner.[1] The Examiner's parent company, Clarity Media Group, also owns the conservative opinion magazine, The Weekly Standard.[2]

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Eternal has read Rules for Radicals!!! Nice to see someone else likes to read once in a while. My favorite qoute from that book is “The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength.”

eternal, in your failed attempt top discredited me you made a mistake. I have used Daily KOS, Huffington Post, The BBC, CNN, LA Times and NY Times. Try useing the truth against me, it's more effective.

[Epic_Fail_Guy]

Do you know how news outlets have to give a full disclosure when they have an interest in something.

It's important to note that EVERY SINGLE reference Gaf has EVER used is froma conservative source.

Case in point---This article came from the Washington Examiner

The Washington Examiner is a free daily newspaper with a conservative viewpoint published in Springfield, Virginia, and distributed around Washington, D.C. and its suburbs. It is owned by Denver businessman Philip Anschutz who is one of the world's richest men.

The newspaper was formerly distributed only in the suburbs of Washington, under the titles of Montgomery Journal, Prince George's Journal, and Northern Virginia Journal. Anschutz purchased their parent company, Journal Newspapers Inc., in October 2004. On February 1, 2005, the paper's name changed to the Washington Examiner, and it adopted a logo and format similar to that of another newspaper owned by Anschutz, the San Francisco Examiner.[1] The Examiner's parent company, Clarity Media Group, also owns the conservative opinion magazine, The Weekly Standard.[2]

Yes.. yes i've noticed the first time he did this.

I will admit finding a reliable source is painfully difficult these days. And I thank the heavens for my pipeline of news, that actually comes out in situation reports for me, no biased anchorman's opinion, no left wing/right wing nut job theories. It's as simple as this, "This is our current situation, these are the several happenings that are going on, here's the reasons why these situations are going on, here's the threat level, what individual/groups are a liability/threat, ect ect. Breaks it down just the frusterating part is, some of it is "Classified" so it is a pain in the ass to try to hint at what's going on without having the reliable source that is unclassified and open to the public.

Most of the time, they are all irrelevant to domestic (in country) events, and usually worldwide and international reports.

Just the funny thing is, even with reliable, bogus, or biased sources being referenced or not, all the squabbling accomplish's nothing. I was actually trolled in PM by a moderator today for my "liberal" opinion. Even with my job, there's not a whole hell of a lot I can do besides keep certain real life "flame wars" from happening, or more often than not, get stuck in a huge clusterfucked flame war, aka iraq.

And I must agree with Msterbeau about ridding of corporations to a certain extent. I have noticed a trend over the years with media sources, the fewer sponsors they have, the worse they get. Once only a small group of sponsors (2, maybe 3 at most) is paying the news media (say fox for example), i noticed it gets extremely biased.

That's just my 2 cents though.

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cuz it is pretty much all Gaf is focused on, being a Tea Party Member(*tosses away the "blah, blah, blah" Gaf tried to pass off as them NOT being an Anti-Obama Hate Group*) and all.

Wonder if he has remembered to eat...

Edited April 21, 2010 by IsleofRhodesEnt

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

No actual response as yet.... just attacks on my charactor.

[Nightgaunt]

There's nothing illegal about that and that's the whole problem. Politicians on both sides, at all levels are being bought out by special interests and corporations. If we want this country back, for government to be for the people, then we need to have corporations decoupled from politics.

+27,000,000

“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.”

-Benito Mussolini

[phee]

No actual response as yet.... just attacks on my charactor.

There's nothing illegal about that and that's the whole problem. Politicians on both sides, at all levels are being bought out by special interests and corporations. If we want this country back, for government to be for the people, then we need to have corporations decoupled from politics.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Oh sorry... I missed that one response mixed in with all the attacks on my charactor.

Marc, I understand where you coming from and my repsonse is... At what point does a group of people acting togther give up thier Rights? A corperation is still made up of people and "speaks" for the economic Rights of those people. Thats my big concern with regulating corperations.

[Nightgaunt]

Marc, I understand where you coming from and my repsonse is... At what point does a group of people acting togther give up thier Rights? A corperation is still made up of people and "speaks" for the economic Rights of those people. Thats my big concern with regulating corperations.

You draw the line when corporations draft the legislation that gets passed, the most recent example being the recent health care legislation.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

You draw the line when corporations draft the legislation that gets passed, the most recent example being the recent health care legislation.

That I can agree with.

[Msterbeau]

Oh sorry... I missed that one response mixed in with all the attacks on my character.

Marc, I understand where you coming from and my response is... At what point does a group of people acting together give up their Rights? A corporation is still made up of people and "speaks" for the economic Rights of those people. That's my big concern with regulating corporations.

Intellectually, I can agree, but in reality, it seems as though greed, (or more innocently, profit motive) and scale, allow corporations to have undue influence on the governmental process. I think individuals, acting on their own behalf, have to be where we draw the line. Individuals exercising their own free will and judgment on what's best for the markets and corporations that affect their lives and who employ them. I think, likewise, that special interests of any sort should not be able to provide any sort of monetary contributions to campaigns or public officials.

[candyman]

Didn't ask you for that....asked to state your opinion/ beliefs...not to post your snark...please take that elsewhere.

If you are going to do it don't bitch when others do it too...

Edited April 21, 2010 by candyman

[Hellion]

If Goldman Sach's goes under I really don't G.A.S.(my own opinion for myself)

I still wonder how many sheeple(no one on DGN) believe that fascism is ok

[candyman]

If Goldman Sach's goes under I really don't G.A.S.(my own opinion for myself)

I still wonder how many sheeple(no one on DGN) believe that fascism is ok

THAT all depends on the culture you live in and the state of things in that area. There are areas in the middle east where this is not an evil...it is how things are run. I am by no means calling them animals or that they are wrong its just how shit works there. Money, land, property, and blood are the currency of this world...we just go about them in different ways.