Simon Bar Sinister Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 nothin' else I can say... http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/21630930/detail.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat (1) Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 This just makes me want to cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillylu29 Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 yeah my friend at work told me about this yesterday. frickin sad. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msterbeau Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Deadcat Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I really don't know what to say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slogo Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I really don't know what to say... +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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taysteewonderbunny Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I heard this on AM radio this morning. The whole thing is terrifyingly sickening. Yes, the boy may have done something wrong, but the details of those allegations have not been released, so it is impossible to judge the severity of his crime, if it did, in fact, take place. In any case, I can imagine the horror and wrath of any parent who discovers one of his children crossed the line in that way with another of one's children. Still, this case reinforces my belief that justice should be carried out impartially and sentences handed down from people who have enough distance from the affected to be able to decide the best course for all involved. I am not saying that the death penalty isn't warranted in some instances. Perhaps this was one, but the way in which it was effected, we shall never know. This was an act of vengeance, not justice, and certainly not one of self-defense. The murder charges against the father are justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eevee Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 That's fucked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homicidalheathen Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Oh so THATS why he did it. I wondered. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomba gira Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 That is the saddest thing I've heard in a really long time. Poor kid. Poor everyone in the family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TygerLili Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 That's just appalling, all across the board... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slogo Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 (edited) what's really sickening are when you read the comments on their website though it looks like the more recent ones aren't as bad Edited November 19, 2009 by Slogo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstralCrux Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 I believe there should have been a trial for the son, but it would be horribly hypocritical of me to say that the son shouldn't have died if he really did molest a 3 year old. I firmly hold to my belief that if you do something that horrible to someone, you should die because it's pointless to try to rehabilitate molesters. The risk isn't worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homicidalheathen Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/hearing_for_man_charged_in_sons_execution_slaying HIGHLAND PARK, Mich. (AP) - A 15-year-old Michigan boy admitted raping a 3-year-old girl, so enraging his father that the man couldn't control himself when witnesses say he forced the teen to strip, marched him to an empty lot and shot him through the head, a defense lawyer said Tuesday. The lawyer for Jamar Pinkney Sr., 37, said he will pursue an insanity defense as a judge in the Detroit enclave of Highland Park ruled Pinkney should stand trial on first-degree murder, assault and firearms charges in his son's Nov. 16 death. Defense attorney Corbett O'Meara said Pinkney's son's confession would have driven anyone crazy. "There is no rational response to the rape of a child," O'Meara said after the hearing. "He was immediately remorseful and didn't seek to hide. He turned himself in to the police." Authorities haven't said if they believe the teen raped the girl and police have said the matter is not part of their investigation. Wayne County prosecutor's office spokeswoman Maria Miller declined to comment Tuesday on the nature of the sexual contact. Pinkney's confrontation with his son came a day after the 3-year-old underwent an examination at Children's Hospital of Michigan. Results of the exam haven't been released, but the teen's mother said they indicated her son "had molested" the girl. The Associated Press is not naming the girl or detailing her relationship to the teen to avoid identifying a victim of sexual assault. Lazette Cherry testified Tuesday that her son talked to her about his contact with the girl after her exam. Cherry said her son called his father about 3 a.m. "Daddy, can you please forgive me in your heart, forgive what I did?" she quoted Jamar Pinkney Jr. as asking his father. The mother said the elder Pinkney agreed to come to the house later to talk further. Cherry's sister, Yolanda Cherry, testified that Jamar Pinkney Sr. arrived about 10 a.m. Yolanda Cherry said she and her sister talked about getting help for the teen, while Pinkney Sr. said he spoke with the 3-year-old's mother and she wanted to press charges. "Jamar, is there something you want to tell me?" Yolanda Cherry quoted Pinkney Sr. as asking his son. "He got on his knees in front of his dad and said, `I'm sorry,"' the aunt said. "What did you do?" she quoted the father as asking. "I humped (the girl)," the teen replied. "I need counseling." Pinkney Sr. didn't immediately respond, Yolanda Cherry said, and she left to visit her mother's upstairs apartment. She later heard screaming and banging and rushed down to find Pinkney Sr. holding a handgun and beating his son. Both sisters testified Pinkney Sr. ordered his son to undress and marched him outside. The teen's mother said Pinkney Sr. ordered the boy to kneel in the grass, ignoring his pleas for mercy. "I said, `Jamar, stop. Don't do this. Think about what you're doing,"' Lazette Cherry testified. She said Pinkney Sr. stood behind the boy and shot him in the head, then walked around still grasping the gun. "He didn't want anybody to go back and help him," the mother said. After Pinkney Sr. left, she rushed to her son's side. "He's bleeding, blood coming out of his mouth," she said. "Somebody said, `Get some covers, cover him up, keep him warm.' So that's what we did." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitsMcGee Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Insanity is crap in this case IMO. An insane person doesn't bring a weapon with them, they use whatever they can find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n0Mad Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 I'm wondering how long it will be before something similar appears on Law & Order, CSI, or some such show. Probably Law & Order. They tend to use real cases and rework them for the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatRN05 Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 I'm going to give them until the next season starts. Anyhow, if the guy uses an insanity defense, doesn't he have to be evaluated by a psychologist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev.Reverence Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 (edited) Insanity is crap in this case IMO. An insane person doesn't bring a weapon with them, they use whatever they can find. Do you have kids? Are you actually insane? (not depressed, not disturbed.) ...if not, then keep your uninformed opinion to yourself, 'cause, you don't know. (period) Further it is an outright insult to anyone whom HAS had a bout with the insanity for you to assume, or presume what is & isn't "what a crazy would do". PLENTY of peoples brought a weapon...crazy lasts a bit longer than a car ride. (edited for civility) Edited December 4, 2009 by Rev.Reverence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homicidalheathen Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 I'm wondering how long it will be before something similar appears on Law & Order, CSI, or some such show. Probably Law & Order. They tend to use real cases and rework them for the show. Personally I hate this. Have respect for the families. Or at least pay them off. Its the American way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev.Reverence Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Personally I hate this. Have respect for the families. Or at least pay them off. Its the American way... $$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taysteewonderbunny Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 I'm wondering how long it will be before something similar appears on Law & Order, CSI, or some such show. Probably Law & Order. They tend to use real cases and rework them for the show. My guess is that Law & Order: SVU will be the first to pick it up, although something might appear in CSI as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taysteewonderbunny Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Do you have kids? Are you actually insane? (not depressed, not disturbed.) ...if not, then keep your uninformed opinion to yourself, 'cause, you don't know. (period) Further it is an outright insult to anyone whom HAS had a bout with the insanity for you to assume, or presume what is & isn't "what a crazy would do". PLENTY of peoples brought a weapon...crazy lasts a bit longer than a car ride. (edited for civility) I don't know precisely how Tits meant her statement, but in her defense: "Insanity" as a legal definition pursuant to a defense has some really bizarre, often incongruent, and against common sense requirements that have nothing to do with the actual ability of persons suffering from any of several disorders. In law, the insanity defense is precluded in the case of rational planning (something pre-meditation negates), remorse, the ability to distinguish right from wrong, the ability to predict consequences, and several other things people in common parlance "crazy" are known to be able to demonstrate. So, please, don't take this personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstralCrux Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 I can say that I'd go after someone who tried to violate my nieces or nephew. A gun would not be enough. But, when it's family abusing family, in this guy's case his own son abusing his half sister. Man, that would fuck me up in the head. If I were the father I can't even imagine how I would handle it, but if I had my wits I'd have someone restrain me until the son was in custody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n0Mad Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 In law, the insanity defense is precluded in the case of ... the ability to distinguish right from wrong Well, the whole reason the man shot the boy is in retribution of the boy molesting the girl. The man thought that molesting is wrong, and punished the boy for doing wrong. Therefore, the man can distinguish right from wrong, and, not insane. Guilty as charged, next case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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