Troy Spiral

Whats your excuse for not going to the DGN gathering at city club on saturdays? If your not exactly sure what "CC on Saturday" means look for a post called "DGN@City Club" in the Nightlife Forum.

Boulevard of Broken Dreams - Tony Bennet

Where did everything come from? What's your reasoning for this thinking ? I've been pondering this one for a long time, and continue to ponder it. Oddly, there really isn't much available on the subject, other than texts that assume you take their word on faith and give little but anecdotal evidince to support their claims, not that i nessisarly expect much more than that. Most of the "serious" attempts to break down a creation "who/what/how", written in modern times, seem to be of it is a "where did the universe come from" or "where did life come from" conversation. Even cosmology, which is supposed to talk about this subject, rarely covers it, and only talks about structure, within structure. (tons of mind blowing books available on this subject, but none really give serious time to what im talking about ....) Not , what i mean by asking the "big question". What im asking is were did EVERYTHING come from. That is, for instance, lets say someone says "it came from god/It/He/She/They" ok, where did god(s)/entities come from? Or "well it came from the big bang" ok.. where did the matter/energy that was the basis for the big bang come from? Oh it all comes from Cosmic Strings? Oh really? Where did they come from? Where did it ALL come from? A common answer might be "I don't know" , well ok then...What do you THINK? What's a GUESS? You'll note my lack of obscure, layman-unreadable philso/techo babble. I can spew plenty out, but it blurs the question for most readers rather that clarifies it. Attempt , to give this one serious thought rather than an automatic response, or even worse, a wise ass, hitchhikers guide to the galaxy answer. I really do think this is an "important" (but virtually always ignored/fluffed off) question. Having been researching this one for over a decade, i probably could come up with a more intellectual sounding , elegantly worded challenge question, but im not sure it would have the desired effect. This one could turn into a semantics / vocabulary argument pretty fast, not that there's much way to avoid it, if someone wants to drag us down that path.

You can upload your pics to DGN , on any post you want. One of the "features" that i was pissed off that the old DGN didnt have, was the ablity for users to host pictures on it. You can upload your pictures right to the board each time you post at the bottome there is an "attachments" feature (add reply>browse), thats one way to upload pictures. Also you can go to the "gallery" at the top of the board and upload pictures into your own personal picture gallery and use the URLs from there to link pictures. I cant seem to find my damned digital camera. Its been MIA for months. grrrr

Robin Williams - Live on Broadway

Tower of Song - Leonard Choen

The fact that i know there may be unread posts on DGN of course! Other than that .. hrmm.. since i've been pondering "whats the point" and "where did it all come from" as my key questions for a good 10 years now, i could go on for 10 pages on this one. But i wont. Generally i keep going , due to the carrot at the end of the stick and i guess becasue im under the crazy asumption that somehow i might get out of this deal alive.

Chris Rock - Black People Vs. a bad word i wont write. very funny. :laughing:

Im still "around" but not particularly active due to health issues (and a few bits of IRL drama) just a heads up. Ill be back in action eventually, cant get rid of me this easy. :laughing: >group hug

DGN was down due to the fact that we did not have enough donations in our paypal account (the actual hosting is only $10 a month) Donation details here: http://www.detroitgothic.net/index.php?showtopic=258 I have my credit card setup as a "backup source" but there seemed to be a glitch in the system and i had to manually go in and pay for it rather than it being "automatic". Sorry for the inconvenince. I was told this will not be a problem on the next billing cycle , and that if there are not enough funds in the primary account (our DGN donations account) it should work as intended.

Current Forcast: 60% chance of troy sighting.

Got there around 11:45 or so , stayed until about 3:45. I went there with my friend don (dgn lurker) and a few CC first-timers. Had a good time. =)

DGN @ City Club, Saturday, December 25th Come. Join us. Meet us. Hang out. We're not that scary in person, really. Leland City Club 400 Bagley Street Downtown Detroit You enter by going through an unmarked door on the First Street side of the Ramada Hotel building, located at 400 Bagley Street in downtown Detroit. The club is at the top of the stairwell. It's not as scary as it sounds. All are welcome. Come meet some of us weirdos. Saturday nights from 10:00 p.m. to 4:30 a.m. Alcoholic drinks until 2:00 a.m., pop and juices served all night. Admission is $4 18 and up, 21 to drink with proper ID (no exceptions). No drugs, weapons, chains, spikes or cell phones. Zoomable map to City Club.

Reports / Comments?

A: I want to dress up in rocky horror gold shiney pants and spank some poor tramp silly. Q: How much wood could a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood?

A: The derailment comment was more wise-assed than anything as its pretty much assumed that the "the rules" as stated by dyno arent strictily being followed in this goofy thread. Q: The christian concept of the cross is not based on fact. Christ was most likely "crucified" on a vertical stake , with no crossbeam. Do you like sausage?

A: They would all hate me becasue i have L33t shoes with glitter on them. Q: Did you know the DGN staff have failed this thread by derailing the subject, AND leaving it in this forum when it should be in the DG forum , and they dont have L33t shoes with glitter on them?

Ok this is just sick... a MMORPG on your mobile phone.... http://www.tibiame.com/home/?language=en

Two guys are out hunting. All of the sudden one guy falls down dead for no apparent reason. The other guy calls 911 to ask what to do. The lady on the phone says "well first we need to make sure hes dead.." Silence on the other end of the phone then a "BLAM!" sound... the guy comes back to the phone and says "ok what next?"

Since the early days of the bush deficit spending this was a oft-warned outcome of such spending, and oft argued by the bush camp that such spending could be offset by the same things that they are suggesting now. Another time-will (hopefully) tell issue.

WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites) pledged Wednesday to work with Congress to reduce the United States' huge deficits to assure markets that his administration supports a strong dollar. "The policy of my government is a strong-dollar policy," Bush said during an Oval Office meeting with Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi. "We're going to take this issue on seriously with the Congress," the president said. .... "The best thing we can do from the executive branch of government in America," Bush said, "is work with Congress to deal with our deficits. One deficit is a short-term budget deficit. Another deficit is the unfunded liabilities that come with Social Security (news - web sites) and some of the health programs for the elderly." Full Article: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...n_go_pr_wh/bush

Free players should not have problems logging in anymore , they just udpated the game so that you just are in a "wait list" and login as your turn comes around if the servers are overcrowded when you try to access the game. I tested it out a few times , and my longest wait time so far with a free account has been around 90 seconds.

Slowy working my way through the current issue of Reason (Magazine) per usual. I'm Stalled out around page 900 (again) of The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich Just finished Gone With The Wind Which, i've been avoiding for almost 10 years. Being the artsy snob, most of the intelligencia seems to assume this is a sappy cartoon history / love story and i, despite several recomendations, avoided it on that basis. I more recently had a friend of mine beat me into submission until i agreed to read this thing. As noted by several reviewers as well as my friend paul , truely should be considered The American War & Peace, skeptic though i was, im now a convert. This is a story about what amounts to The Apocolypse and the Post-Apoclypse , how some survive it, and some are destroyed (some emotionally, some physically, and many both) by it. When the destruction of the south is described in the context of the book, it really would be better described as American Armageddon. You almost expect Sherman,Grant,Sheridan and Lincoln (northern personalities virtually synomous with "Satan" in the old south) to come riding in as the four horseman of the apocolypse or to take on a many-handed form of Shiva and scream "..And Behold , I Have Become Death The Destroyer Of Worlds.." Very few of the main characters survive it and the ones that do have massive soul-searching ethica and emotional personality shifts. This book is readable on a "breezy" level , similar to many Hemmingway Novels for instance , but has a very deep undercurrent that is overlooked and continues to be overlooked by academia. About halfway through The Watchmen for a second read. Its amazing peice of work, despite its very un-accpetable subject matter and format.

You guys could never get in? I have litterally 11 different tibia accounts, 9 of them are "free" accounts. I've never had to try more than 4 times to get in with the free accounts and even then only occastionally. (non issue with normal accounts) And, if i was on any of the servers listed as "Empty" i dont know that i ever had a problem logging in with a free account, except if the server was brand new. Soon there will be a "login que" and you wont have to try and re-enter manually, but as i said i've been playing the game for years and at "peak times" (say 8pm-1am EST on USA servers) i've occastionaly had to try 3-4 times to get in with the free accounts but most of the time i just get right in. Just for kicks i tried to login just now with 1 account on the Eternia server (got right in) and then again on Dolera (took 3 tries and then got in) Im guessing you guys were very unlucky and picked uber full servers at peak times. If anyone is perticularly RPG savvy and this looks like something you might be serious about long-term rather than just goofing around a bit , i have a second non-free "premium" account that has nearly 3 months left on it that i have no use for that i could let anyone that plans on playing the game have for free. (PM me)

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